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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #849
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-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Thu, 28 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 849
-
- Today's Topics:
- Alinco DR592 Audio mod?
- Bay Area BBS
- Did CB's used to require licenses?
- Favor ATV newsgroup/mailing list
- Good day to you all
- HELP-getting sticky velcro tape to stick?
- Kenwood TS-820 question
- L.A. RED CROSS CLASSES
- Ramsey SlyFox
- repeaters in the microwave bands
- REQUEST: Help finding WWV receiver!
- Suggestions for 2M & 70 CM base station antenna
- VHF TV freqs to be phased out?
-
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-
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- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 19:53:59 GMT
- From: mdisea!mothost!pts-nntp!jkronz@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Alinco DR592 Audio mod?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hello,
- A friend of mine just bought an Alinco DR 592 mobile dual band
- and he wants to know if there is a mod that will combine the two
- audio outout jacks into one. thereby being able to listen to
- the 2m and 440 bands on ONE ext speaker. any help appreciated.
-
- please e-mail me my news reading is slower than my news server
- delete que.
-
- thanks
- -jason
-
-
- These Are MY opinions and do not reflect those of Motorola Inc.
- ________________________________________________________________________________
- Jason Kronz |
- jkronz@pts.mot.com | (This space intentionally left blank)
- N9OFN |
- Cyber-Pilot (VFR only) |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Jul 1994 21:05:25 -0500
- From: cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Bay Area BBS
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I am looking for the frequencies of South Bay area BBS in the 440Mhz range. I am also looking for ANY phone numbers of any
- BBSs (land line variety...though so much the better if ham radio related) in the 415 area code.
-
- 73 de Dave, N9uXU
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Jul 1994 13:24:36 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!wvhorn@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Did CB's used to require licenses?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Jul26.131707.204@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>,
- Gary Coffman <gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> wrote:
-
- >US *society* was polite back then too. The 55 MPH speed limit came
- >in time to follow the Great Society experiment and in time for the
- >Woodstock generation. General respect for law and order broke down,
- >kids didn't have firm parental supervision any more because women
- >went into the work force, etc. Eventually we got the chaos we have
- >today with kids shooting kids on the street, and foul mouthed cretins
- >making fools of themselves on radio.
-
- ...dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!
-
- >Oddly enough, those same people, when met in other contexts, don't
- >behave like pseudo-redneck idiots. That's key to understanding
- >the psychology of CB. CB is an anonymous service where people
- >hide behind "handles" instead of using their real names. Thus they
- >can act out their most abberent fantasies without the shame that
- >such acts would cause them if done openly under their own names.
- >
- >Amateur radio is made up mostly of older people who grew up before
- >the societal breakdown in morals, and amateurs still insist on
- >usage of real names. Thus the service is a throwback to the 1950s
- >in it's social behavior.
-
- Or, it could be that amateurs have licenses and therefore cannot hide
- behind anonymous "handles" and therefore feel more responsible for their
- behavior. This is the same thing one sees in comparing small towns where
- everyone knows everyone else and big cities where people can remain
- anonymous. The only difference between the 1950s and the 1990s is that
- there is a whole lot more people, and more of them live in big cities.
-
- ---Bill VanHorne
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 15:47:20 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!relay.puug.pt!ciup2.ncc.up.pt!news.ci.ua.pt!etjfonte@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Favor ATV newsgroup/mailing list
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Erik Sorgatz (sorgatz@avatar.tti.com) wrote:
- : Ok I'll admit it...I caught the ATV bug recently...count me in! Esp FM
- : ATV circuits..there is so little written about it! And it looks SO MUCH
- : BETTER than AM TV!!
-
- Count me also
- CT1ENQ
- 73's
- --
- |--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
- | Jose' Miguel M.B.Fonte | Aveiro University - PORTUGAL - EUROPE |
- | Box 108 - 4801 Guimaraes - PT. | Electronics and Telecomunications Dept. |
- | E-mail : etjfonte@ci.ua.pt |---|-------------------------------------|
- | PACKET : CT1ENQ@CT1EDY.CTAV.PRT.EU | Ham:CT1ENQ - Univer.Club: CT6ARU |
- |------------------------------------|-------------------------------------|
- Too much of anything is bad, but too much of good whiskey is barely enough.
- M.Twain
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Jul 94 22:35:00 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Good day to you all
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi Smitty,
-
- thanks for your words.
-
- Japan, Australia and New Zealand are different worlds entirely.
- New Zealand is pretty much like Europe in its ham radio system.
- Australia is all together different for two main reasons: 1/ radio is used
- an the only communications medium with the outback (you must have heard of
- flying doctors) and 2/ there is third party in Australia. Ham radio is the
- only way to communicate and is being used more and more today. Schools run
- of HF like you wouldnt believe. In terms of ham radio freedom, Australia is
- just as good as the US.
- Japan on the other hand has various licenses and opens up HF to many more
- people that in the US with reduced power. Every rig you get today, say the
- Kenwood, is also supplied in a R version, thus there is a Kenwood TS450S
- and a TS450R, the R stands for reduced and means 10 watts output. Most
- people get 10 watt licenses easily. This eases the problem on 2 meters and
- other starting frequencies. There is no 3rd party with Japan (I dont know if
- there 3rd party allowed within Japan).
-
- Most of the European goverment consider us as trouble makers and a service
- they are not interested in. It provides no real income and has no real
- purpose (does a hobby denote purpose?).
- Then a lot of hams are scared stiff about doing anything about it. They dont
- have anything to bargain with. They dont raise their voice. They are
- generally afraid. Thus we are always at the mercy of the authorities. Then
- there are those that think we are closely monitored (In Belgium they closed
- down the monitoring service years ago for luck of funds) and they are afraid
- someone will come in their houses at night and confiscate their equipment.
-
- I mean think about this: Maximum power in Europe is about 750W PEP out (In
- Germany), 400W PEP out (UK), 150WDC in (Belgium, Irl, Greece) so how can
- you say you are using a 8877 amp? You dont say it. You say, "I am putting
- out about 150watts...' I even know an inspector of the communications
- department (like the FCC) who operates on 160m at 1500 W out when the
- maximum permitted is 10 W DC in. 'Cant do it otherwise' he says.
-
- You can see there is much disparity and there is much that needs to be done.
- The IARU societies must get their act together and start a constructive
- negotiating process with the Communications departments towards achieving a
- uniform ham radio system; a real easy entry for starting hams and make the
- hobby open to all. Instead of wasting their time about sponsoring yet
- another contest which serves no practical purpose whatsoever.
- Best,
- Peter
-
- ----------
- From: hbs
- To: pve
- Subject: Re: Good day to you all
- Date: Thursday, July 28, 1994 5:40AM
-
-
- Peter,
-
- Thanks for the imformative post in rec.readio.amateur.misc.
-
- I was not aware of the problems with European Ham radio that you mentioned.
-
- What about Japan, Austraila and New Zealand? Do they have the same
- problem?
-
- It would be interesting to know what the Governments of the major
- countries in the World think about the Ham radio activity in their
- country.
-
- Regards,
-
- Smitty, NA5K
-
- --
- Henry Smith (hbs@crl.com)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Jul 1994 20:45:19 GMT
- From: thecourier.cims.nyu.edu!longlast.cs.nyu.edu!jackson@nyu.arpa
- Subject: HELP-getting sticky velcro tape to stick?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- |> I trimmed off some of the "hooks" because
- |> the stuff is so strong it is hard to separate the two pieces.
- |>
- |>
- |> Brett Miller N7OLQ brett_miller@ccm.hf.intel.com
- |> Intel Corp.
- |> American Fork, UT
-
- I may be wrong, but I interpreted the stickyness problem
- to be in the glue of the piece attached to the dash.. in which
- case I would suggest lightly sanding (at least not armor-alling)
- the area where you are trying to get it to stay. I too use
- Radio Shack "hook and loop" tape, but I don't know if it's
- heavy duty. Of course, it's only holding a Pro34 vertically
- which might not put too much stress on the hold.
-
- Remember the golden rule of velcro, the more area covered on
- both surfaces, the better the hold.
-
- --
- Steven Jackson, Assistant to the Chair of Computer Science
- Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences, New York University
- 251 Mercer Street, NY NY 10012
-
- Work <-- (forwarded) Home
- jackson@cs.nyu.edu, jcksnste@acfcluster.nyu.edu, sjackson@cjbbs.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Jul 1994 17:30:56 -0700
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.cerf.net!gopher.sdsc.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!csulb.edu!paris.ics.uci.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Kenwood TS-820 question
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In <01HF5MAFEW4I9EGMKQ@gmr.com> A15TAH%ANDV06@gmr.COM writes:
-
- >For all you knowledgable folks, I have recently purchased a Kenwood TS-
- >820. I want to run it from the car, the manual says there is an option
- >I could buy, but there is also a diagram for wiring a new power plug.
-
- You need the DC module built on to the rear of the rig, about 4'' by
- 4'', extending about 2'' out from the center of the back of the rig. If
- you do not have the module, your wiring will not work. The plug is
- wired in a different way to access the DC module when installed in the
- rig.
-
- >My question is, has anyone wired a new power plug without using the
- >DC-DC option? Anyone know of where I can buy the CW filter for this
- >rig?
-
- Can't wire the plug and expect it to work without the option. I have
- the wiring diagram somewhere, many ham stores can find the DC module
- used for you, or you can build one (not too hard....it seems.)
- CW filters are still around, and still made by IRCI, they advertise
- in QST...look up "International Radio and Computer" in the advertisers
- index.
-
- Clark
- WA3JPG
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 28 Jul 94 00:27:05 -0700
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!netcomsv!lavc!steven.rosenberg@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: L.A. RED CROSS CLASSES
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Does anybody have information about the amateur radio classes offered at
- the American Red Cross in Van Nuys, Ca.?
-
- I'd like to know when the classes are held, who to contact, etc.
-
- thanks,
-
- Steven Rosenberg, KC6FYL
- steven.rosenberg@support.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 01:28:15 GMT
- From: pacbell.com!att-out!nntpa!not-for-mail@ames.arpa
- Subject: Ramsey SlyFox
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- The 73 article also said:
-
- "I noticed that the factory-wired unit's output inductor L2 and filter
- inductor L4 had a much wider spacing than called for in the kit
- instructions. The manual does not specify any adjustments to the
- spacing of these coils after assembly. But when I spread the turns on
- the kit unit to match the factory's unit and retuned the final
- capacitor, power output increased dramatically."
-
- Now I get it. If I want to build a RAMSEY kit and make it work, I
- just need to also buy a wired unit and copy the wired one exactly.
- Too bad if the kit instructions do not tell you everything to do, the
- beginner ham can just send it back and pay a large fee to RAMSEY to
- repair it.
-
-
- Proposed AD:
-
- Have the fun of building a kit:
-
- cost of kit $X + $50 to get it working
-
- or buy it wired for $X +$30.
-
- RAMSEY markets their kits as easy to build.
- Sure, if you have a spectrum analysiser, signal generator, bird watt
- meter, lots of time and lots of RF experience you too can get it
- working
-
- OR
-
- you can design your own from scratch with less frustration.
-
-
- Has anyone every built a kit and had it work?
-
- Every review I have read about their kits indicated something was
- wrong and had to be fixed.
-
- Joe Wilkes
- WA2SFF
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 19:38:10 GMT
- From: psinntp!arrl.org!zlau@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: repeaters in the microwave bands
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Warren Kinninger N9MLK (wkinning@nyx10.cs.du.edu) wrote:
- :
- : All of the microwave antenna articles I've read describe directional
- : antennas like beams and dishes. What type of omnidirectional antenna
- : would you use for microwave frequencies ? I've seen some stacked dipole
- : antennas for 1.2 Ghz. What works on 10 Ghz ?
-
- You can cut slots in a piece of waveguide to make a horizontally polarized
- omnidirectional antenna. See page 190 of the 1989 Microwave Update. I was
- hoping to see if mine had 13 dBi of gain, but we had a thunderstorm instead
- of an antenna measuring session at the NEWS meeting Saturday.
- : frequencies.
- :
- : Also, has anyone conducted experiments with microwave repeaters ? The
- : highest frequency repeaters listed in the ARRL repeater directory are in
- : 1.2 Ghz amateur band. You could build a self contained dish and trans-
- : verter that connects to 2m HT with a short coax line. This would allow
- : people to get on the air inexpensively without buying a dedicated
- : microwave transceiver.
-
- I've worked some people on 1296.25 MHz FM--I assume they are
- driving it with an HT.
- :
- : The line of sight requirements would limit the coverage of microwaves
- : compared to VHF so you'd tend to have more repeaters with smaller
- : coverage areas, especially in areas without mountains or tall buildings
- : for repeater sites. I don't see any technical problem in implementing
- : this with current microwave components. There are problems with:
- :
- Actually, I recently worked Don, WB1FKF, over a 179 km knife edge path over
- Grand Manadnock, NH. He said my signal strength was the same on all bands
- we worked--144, 432, 903, 1296, 2304, 3456, 5760, and 10 GHz. He had too
- much line noise to hear me on 50 MHz. Of course, as a QRP station, I'm only
- running a little more power on the lower bands compared to the 2 watts on 13
- and 6 cm. Of course, the microwave stuff has to be working properly--you
- can't make contacts if you are off frequency or you have water in the coax
- connectors or.... Also, I'm using antennas of roughly the same size--I'm
- not trying to make contacts with miniature microwave antennas.
-
- --
- Zack Lau KH6CP/1 2 way QRP WAS
- 8 States on 10 GHz
- Internet: zlau@arrl.org 10 grids on 2304 MHz
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 23:34:20 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.cerf.net!mvb.saic.com!MathWorks.Com!news.duke.edu!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!darwin.sura.net!fconvx.ncifcrf.gov!mack@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: REQUEST: Help finding WWV receiver!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <3161lg$5s7@char.vnet.net> AARON.HENDERSON.CMWAH01@NT.COM writes:
- >Forgive me if one or two of the groups are inappropriate.
- >I'm posting this for a freind who doesn't have usenet access.
- >
- >---
- >OK, I'm at my wits end. I have tried to locate a WWV receiver
- >that is not $350.00 . I have scanned the ads in SKY&TEL, Astronomy
- >and the Ham radio mags for anything concerning a WWV receiver or
- >kit. I know Radio Shack used to sell them but THEY DO NOT SELL them
- >anymore. There was a review in SKY&TEL (Apr or May 1993)of a receiver
- >but I was unable to contact the company.
-
- I use a Radio Shack time cube for exactly the same purpose,
- which I got at a ham fest. So
- if you can go to a ham fest you might pick one up, although I haven't
- seen any for a while I'll admit.
-
- I don't know what price or where you've been looking at receivers
- but I nootice adverts in places that sell radar detector (LaMark?
- I keep getting their junk mail all the time) for what look like quite
- nice shortwave radios about the size of a hefty wallet for abotuu $100
- that are PLL synthesised and will get WWV and everything else as
- well. Presumably that's the sort of thing you're looking for.
-
- Joe Mack
- NA3T
- mack@ncifcrf.gov
-
-
- >
- >Thanks in advance,
- >Aaron
- >
- >
- >|| /\ \\ __________AARON.HENDERSON.CMWAH01@NT.COM___________
- >|| //\\ \\ | Aperture Fever is not Deadly (Most of the time) |
- >|| /\ //__\\__\\ | " is not curable |
- >||//\\// \\ \\ | " is contagious |
- >|_/ \/ \\ \\ |_________________________________________________|
- >---
- >
- >Please reply to him via email.
- >
- >---
- > _________________________________________
- >._______. ___\___ | __ / _______________________________________ \
- >| \ | / | _\___/_ \____ || Saurian: saur@char.vnet.net ||
- >|---+---| .---. ___| || ................................... ||
- > ___|___ |___| | __ || EXODUS 4:1-5 NUMBERS 21:4-9 ||
- > | |___| | __ || EXODUS 7:8-13 PSALMS 104:24-28 ||
- > ------- | | | ||_______________________________________||
- >/ | | \ | \| \___ \_________________________________________/
- >
- >---
- > _________________________________________
- >._______. ___\___ | __ / _______________________________________ \
- >| \ | / | _\___/_ \____ || Saurian: saur@char.vnet.net ||
- >|---+---| .---. ___| || ................................... ||
- > ___|___ |___| | __ || EXODUS 4:1-5 NUMBERS 21:4-9 ||
- > | |___| | __ || EXODUS 7:8-13 PSALMS 104:24-28 ||
- > ------- | | | ||_______________________________________||
- >/ | | \ | \| \___ \_________________________________________/
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Jul 1994 13:20:40 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!udel!news.udel.edu!diusys!dave@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Suggestions for 2M & 70 CM base station antenna
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Ira Machefsky (ira@src.dec.com) wrote:
- : I want to put up a decent base station vertical antenna to cover the 2M and 70CM
- : bands. The large number and price spread is rather overwhelming. Could I have
- : suggestions from people on a decent one to start with? Thanks.
-
- : 73,
- : Ira
- : KE6KHT
-
- I've had good luck with the Hustler G6-270 dual band ant. It's about
- 9 ft long and built in one piece, no joint in the middle. This makes
- it very sturdy. Comes with stainless hardware and is made in the US.
- Price is around $150 I think (bought mine over a year ago).
-
- 73, Dave WA3U
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 12:19:03 GMT
- From: news.pipeline.com!malgudi.oar.net!witch!ted!mjsilva@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: VHF TV freqs to be phased out?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- This morning I heard a ham state that all VHF TV channels were to be
- reallocated to other services by 2008, with broadcast TV then limited
- to the UHF channels. I heard this on a scanner, so I couldn't ask him
- about it. Does anyone know if this is true?
-
- Mike, KK6GM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Jul 1994 18:01:49 -0700
- From: pacbell.com!well!barrnet.net!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!apple.com!apple.com!not-for-mail@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <30ja44$apv@wrdis02.robins.af.mil>, <1994Jul20.115448.1@woods.uml.edu>, <1994Jul22.181523.18465@govonca.gov.on.ca>a.gov
- Subject : Re: QST on News Stands?
-
- pepperb@govonca.gov.on.ca (Brien Pepperdine) writes:
-
- >Why is the QST issue dated July/August? Anyone know?
- >Masthead says its a monthly, and it has been 12 issues per annum for a
- >long as I remember.
-
-
- Perhaps that only applies to news-stand QSTs? My July QST said July,
- and the QST that came in the mail two days ago (the one with the olde
- wireless sets and olde pharte on the cover :-) says August.
-
-
- Kok Chen, AA6TY kchen@apple.com
- Apple Computer, Inc.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Jul 1994 00:43:09 GMT
- From: pacbell.com!unet.net.com!loren!larson@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CtKs4o.5or@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <LEVIN.94Jul27130606@cassandra.bbn.com>, <CtMDtr.24z@news.Hawaii.Edu>ⁿ
- Subject : Re: Ramsey SlyFox
-
- In article <CtMDtr.24z@news.Hawaii.Edu> jeffrey@kahuna.tmc.edu (Jeffrey Herman) writes:
-
- [ other comments by others removed, you have probably read them... ]
-
- >He said "it's easier to spread the coils a bit than to have to add more
- >turns" - those two concepts work opposite each other. I think he meant
- >to say "it's easier to spread the coils a bit than to have to REDUCE
- >the number of turns", either of which would reduce the inductance.
-
-
- The point is that the coils were designed to have slightly too much
- inductance when they had not been spread. They were designed so the
- adjustment would be to reduce their inductance.
-
- Had they been designed with slightly too little inductance, one
- would of had to add turns.
-
- Since it is easier to adjust if you know which direction you will
- be adjusting, it is easier to make it too much, and tweak the coils
- apart to the correct point.
-
- Alan
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 01:17:09 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcom.com!dparker@decwrl.dec.com
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <fkilpatr.775148334@afit.af.mil>, <1994Jul26.131707.204@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <horak.775252376@convex.com>p.
- Subject : Re: Did CB's used to require licenses?
-
-
- I was about 10.........KLZ5195. We used our calls to id
- and had lots of fun in our family..
-
- Dave
-
-
- *********************************************
- * Dave Parker = KD6RRS = *
- * Tracy, California, USA *
- * Internet e-mail: dparker@netcom.com *
- * Packet: KD6RRS@WA6YHJ.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA *
- *********************************************
-
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-
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